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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-09-05 Park Board Minutes RIVERSIDE PARK BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2007 6:00 p.m. The Riverside Park Board held their regularly scheduled meeting at the City Hall in Riverside, Missouri, on Monday, August 6, 2007. Those in attendance were: Julie Rule, Ron Carlson, Norma Parrot Alderman Mike Fuller, Brent Miles, Director of Planning and Economic Development, Mayor Kathy Rose, Jeff Rupp, Director of Public Works, Lori Rardeen, and Sarah Wagner, Administrative Clerk. Not in attendance were: Cathy Mousel, Sara Thatcher, Jerry Hackenberg and Jim Frakes. Dave Schwartz from Water’s Edge began the meeting by explaining some possible designs and costs to add water features to the pool that could be transferred if and when a new pool is constructed. Mayor Kathy Rose gave a brief update to new Park Board member Norma Parrot. Rose explained that the Board of Aldermen approved an additional $35,000 to the Park Boards budget to add a water feature to the existing pool for younger children. It is apparent that the $35,000 will not be enough and a budget amendment will be needed for any decisions the Park Board recommends. Julie Rule asked if to would be possible to phase in portions of pool features in order to fit the allotted $35,000. Mayor Rose replied that the Board of Aldermen wanted to add a shade feature and something for young children to the pool. They had no idea how much it would cost and just threw a number out there. Brent Miles, Director of Planning and Economic Development commented that the Park Board had their budget of $200,000 approved by the Board of Aldermen and this $35,000 for the water feature for the pool was in addition to that. Schwartz explained to the Board the different types of features that could be added to the pool area. Anchored floatables range in price from $3,000 to $10,000 and can be moved if necessary. They are usually put in two to three feet of water and are typically for older children ages eight and up. Shade structures can be added both in the pool and on the deck. These too, will be able to be saved and moved. To add spry features to the pool a new pump and filtration system would be needed separate from the one that exists for the pool. It would also require the existing pool deck to be dug up. That is why any type of spray feature would be so expensive. The City could choose to not use a pump and have the water pass through once and not treat it and recirculating it. That would make the price go down about $125,000, but would create a lot of waste water. Mayor Rose asked about the bacteria in the waste water. Rule asked if there was more of an issue with bacteria in the water with a one pass through system or with the recirculating treated water. Schwartz said that the problem is when the bacteria end up on the deck. There is less of a threat with the bacteria with a system where the water is treated with chlorine then the one pass through system. Page 1 Norma Parrot asked if there was any way to test the water to see if kids were getting sick. Schwartz replied that it is usually a doctor that diagnosis the bacteria infection. It is something that is very difficult to test for. Because the bacteria are such a risk the system that treats the spray features needs to be more powerful then the pool. Alderman Fuller asked what the cost difference would be if the City were to add more spray features. Schwartz replied that once the pump and filter are in place the cost to add more spray features are minimal. Alderman Fuller asked how the water from the spray park was collected. Schwartz replied that it is collected in a drain and then filtered. Aldermen Fuller asked if there were other types of material to use besides concrete. Schwartz replied that a rubber type of material has been used but he does not recommend it because it tends to grow algae. The concrete is the best and to add color the concrete can be colored. Ron Carlson asked what it took to winterize a spray park feature. Schwartz replied that it is very easy. The spray heads are taken off and replaced with a cap and all the valves are opened. In the summer it is just as easy to change the nozzles out to have different types of spray. Schwartz told the Board that a bench type feature with shade can be added to the pool for very little expense. The shade structure can be left up all year or taken down, but it can only handle up to 80 mile per hour winds. Aldermen Fuller asked what type of material the shade structures were made out of. Schwartz replied that the base is galvanized steel with woven polyethylene that will last about 10 years. It is available in several different colors; however, the red tends to fad faster then the rest. Schwartz went on to explain that adding a small slide to the pool is another inexpensive option. One can be added in six to eight inches with a soft pad under it. There are several options with putting in a slide. The slides are constructed of concrete and fiberglass. Miles commented that he asked Water’s Edge to come to the meeting tonight to show the board all there was to offer for the pool and the prices and the board can make a recommendation to the Board of Aldermen from there. Alderman Fuller asked if there was water that ran to the slides. Schwartz explained that it is hard plumbed from the pool to run water from the pool down the slide. Parrot commented that kids get board quickly and asked if something could be added yearly. Page 2 Schwartz said that would be possible, but it wouldn’t help much with the expense. The pump is what costs the most. Mayor Rose said that shade is what people said they wanted the most followed by a feature for the small kids. Miles commented that the City charges the least out of any pool in the area because a lot of the kids that use it come from low income households. Mayor Rose commented that the pool doesn’t pay for itself. The City usually pays around $50,000 every summer to keep it open. Parrot commented that added shade features will bring more people to the pool. Julie Rule asked if there were any numbers from the Community Center Study that the City did in regard to a one pass through system versus a recirculating system. Miles replied that the Community Center Study focused on addition like a lazy river and seating with jets. The numbers for that would not apply in this case. Rule commented that it would cost less to do a single pass through system, but the risk for bacteria is greater and it would waste more water, while the recirculating system is more expensive, but safer and saves water. Schwartz commented that with the single pass system the spray park would have to be shut down several times a day to be disinfected and cleaned. Miles said that it is difficult to quantify the cost difference between the two systems because the City pays for the water and the staff is contracted through Park Hill Aquatics. The recirculating system may cost more, but it would not require as many people or as much time to clean and disinfect several times a day. Miles then asked the Board what direction they wanted to take. Mayor Rose commented that the Board of Aldermen would be willing to go over the $35,000, but not sure if they would want to do something where it would not be able to tie into the existing system. Jeff Rupp, Director of Public Works asked if backflow preventors would be needed. Schwartz replied that they would be. Aldermen Fuller asked where all the water went with a single pass through system. Schwartz replied that it is all collected in a drain and then goes into the sewer. Rules asked what the cost for the shade structures was. Schwartz replied that on average a large umbrella runs about $5,000. Page 3 Rules commented that to serve the two to five year olds a spray park is needed, but it is way out of the budget. The Park Boards proposal to the Board of Aldermen may be to add some shade and a bench or two. Miles said that the Board may recommend to the Board of Aldermen what the City can get for the $35,000 and what a spray park will cost. Schwartz commented that a slide, bench and three shade structures would be about $50,000. Miles commented that a shade structure can be put off to one side in the zero entry for the younger children. Schwartz said that it would be possible to run a pipe from the pool overhead and have it come down from one of the shade structures. Miles said that he would construct a power point for the Board of Aldermen meeting that showed all the options and the different costs. Miles said that he would show the options to Park Board again before it goes to the Bard of Aldermen. Next, Rupp gave the Board a recap on the condition of the baseball field. The problem with the debris in the dirt on the field has been taken care of. As a good gesture, Game Time Turf donated some red filed conditioner. It is somewhat water repellent and softer then the bare dirt. It looks very nice. Carlson asked if the weeds have been taken care of in the sod on the baseball field. Rupp replied that the area has been sprayed with weed killer. Rule commented that the baseball filed is pretty much done. The only other thing that was talked about was making the height of the backstop higher, but to extend the fence was too expensive. The Board was looking into a net, but nothing has come of that. Miles commented that the lighting for the baseball field was Jim Frakes’ idea and would like to wait until he can attend a meeting to go over the expense with him. Rule commented that the lighting was too expensive, there was still a threat of it being damaged from flooding and the possibility of the City constructing a sports complex in the future and the lights would not be able to be moved. Next, Miles explained that the City’s Streetscape Committee has chosen the benches for the City’s plan. The streetscape design will also include a four sided clock tower with commemorative bricks. Rule asked how much the brick were going to cost. Miles replied that they are thinking that they will be around $25. Miles showed the Board pictures of the benched chosen for the streetscape. They are metal benches with no large slats. Mayor Rose asked how many benches at Renner Brenner Park needed to be replaced. Page 4 Miles replied that it is between four and six. Mayor Rose asked what the total number of benches in Renner Brenner Park was. Miles replied six. Rule commented that the benches don’t really go with the lighting or the signage in Renner Brenner, but it has been noted that in the future the park will need new lighting and new signs and they should pick something that coordinates. Miles said that the seller of the benchers, Fry in North Kansas City said that the benches are $900 each. Six benches would be $6,400 and the Board only has $4,000 budgeted for benches. However, the Board did save $6,000 on the baseball field. Mayor Rose said that maybe they could just get by with only four this year. Miles said that four of the benches really need to be replaces and two are just ok. The Board also needs to decide if they are ok with all the benches not matching. Also, the maker of the benches also makes a matching sign that could be used to replace the old ones in the park. The City could order twelve for Renner Brenner Park and for the streetscape and just store the ones that aren’t being used. Mayor Rose commented that something will have to be done with the shelter at Renner Brenner. Rupp replied that it will be in the budget for next year. Miles said that he will take pictures of all the benches at Renner Brenner for the next meeting so the Board can make a decision on which benches to replace. Rule asked if the Board had to stay in the $4,000 budget. Miles replied that he thinks the Board should really replace all six. The Board agreed and Miles said that he would hold off on ordering them until after the streetscape is approved and order them all together. Next, Rupp commented on the events guidelines that he handed out at the last meeting. Rule commented that it is mostly internal for staff to ask questions of the events. Miles said that he would like to link it to the Tourism Tax Board and the Park Board. Everyone wants to use the park for free and wants services donated. If it is tied to the Tourism Tax Board then the City will get reimbursed from that fund. Submittal will be needed six months in advance. Next, Mayor Rose gave a short summery of the Line Creek Trail. The City has been working on this project for four years and doesn’t have anything in place yet. It has been very frustrating because the Rail Road is not cooperating. Page 5 Miles said that the Rail Road will not let the trail pass under the tracks like originally planned and wants the City to pay to fix up their bridge. Miles showed the Board members two alternative options for the trail. Option two is more expensive, but from a trail prospective it is the best option. The Board of Aldermen are studying the cost for the next meeting Next, Miles gave some information on the off leash dog park. There are not regulations for them, but found as a rule of thumb they are separated for big and little dogs. There are lots of things to consider such as how it will be run etc. City staff will continue to research this. The meeting was adjourned. ____________________________________ Sarah Wagner, Administrative Clerk Page 6